Okay…I got a response from my contact at Verizon, below:
I had the opportunity to speak with our CEO and the business lead for Yahoo Groups. They asked me to communicate the following:
- We will process and handle ALL requests to download data that are submitted to us before December 14th.
- This means that when the date passes, we will honor those requests to ensure that everyone who made a timely request receives their data and content.
- We will stop making the content available or viewable from the groups.yahoo.com portal, but we will not delete it until all requests submitted prior to December 14th have been completed.
We hope this alleviates some of your concerns.
1. Not every Yahoo Group owner has even been notified of this upcoming change. I have had several who have just found out who never received a letter or notice. I believe we need more time, and we need a public mainstream media announcement that this is happening. I am still pursuing this dilligently and will not stop pursuing it until there is nothing left to save.
2. The download that arrives from the request that Verizon/Yahoo provides is complicated for many users and it only gets the message archive. It is not something a regular non-techie user can handle, or understand. It’s supposed to work in Thunderbird, but it has not been doing so. There are other simpler methods people are utilizing to get this data, including scrolling and copy/paste, but they take longer and we would need more time. And the one person who can do this for a price is going at it 24/7 and is still not catching up to demand. He is overwhelmed.
3. In addition, Verizon/Yahoo are not accounting for the fact that there are millions of photos & files that have to be downloaded manually and saved one at a time. This is taking people forever when they have multiple groups with photos & files, and even longer with a slower connection. Verizon/Yahoo’s solution of the Yahoo download does not solve this.
4. Plus there are thousands of databases that are not being taken into account as well. They need a format to be exported to such as CSV or something. Otherwise, decades of history and research and medical information will be lost and people will be devastated.
5. Using Groups as a mailing list is a complete fail. The mail is inconsistent, and frequently out of order, where the messages tend to show up more consistently on the site. Currently, the posts are still appearing on site, so we are able to communicate with our members. But by mail, it is not at all effective. That is not how we use our groups.
6. If Verizon/Yahoo deletes all the content that everyone has stored and is currently using every day on a regular basis, there will be no need for anyone to stay on your platform. Everything that mattered will be gone. And there will likely be a major public reaction by the members about having lost everything that mattered, especially if they know that Verizon knew what they are deleting and didn’t care. After all, they are already screaming and railing against Verizon/Yahoo all over the Internet as we speak.
7. Infrastructure, such as the Ofcom telephone company in the UK will lose their working platform, as will many other government and business groups that utilize the platform daily.
Here’s my question. What is the rush at deleting this data? Is Verizon/Yahoo running out of storage? More time would provide more opportunity to rescue the pieces that are not included in the download, as well as more public “how-to” information, and places that might be willing to process it as an import.
Or, why can’t we just stay and use the site like we have been? Or better yet, be a hero to all and fix the broken platform? What are we doing that is so bad that you have to just delete us out of existence?
I respectfully request that you give us some answers. I’ve been going on the assumption that Verizon didn’t know what it was deleting. But if Verizon does know that it’s about to devastate tens of thousands of lives, that’s different.
We would much rather discuss this and work out a better solution with Verizon than continue to pursue it through the media. Has the CEO seen the site I showed you? Has the business lead for Yahoo Groups seen the site? I respectfully request some answers, and for the business lead, whomever they are, to contact me directly.
Bottom line: even with your download process, to rescue all the photos, files, databases and more, we need more time. It can’t be done by December 14th, not even if everyone works around the clock doing it.
Thank you for your response, I await an answer.